Christian Church – Part 1
April 132010
Many times people want to know about the relationship between the church of Christ and the Christian church. I spent a long time on the air with this caller from the Christian church explaining why we, the Danville church of Christ, do not extent fellowship to the Christian church. The issue of mechanical instruments of music is simply one manifestation of the real root of the problem, disregard for biblical authority.
Duration : 0:9:48
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April 13th, 2010 at 4:21 am
Rev is mostly …
Rev is mostly figurtiv not litrl if it says like sound many waters, a voice of loud thndr, how many voices do you hear that sound like thndr/many waters. If that’s a metaphor so are the harps, harps are earthly things. Just as a parabl earthly things r used to discribe heavnly things so that we Earthlng can better picture/understand what is being said. Rev 4:3 like a jasper. Y would heaven need material things. When the bible tells you what to do specifcaly that is exclusiv not inclusiv.
April 13th, 2010 at 4:21 am
Revelation 14:2 ” …
Revelation 14:2 “And I heard a voice from heaven, like the voice of many waters, and a voice of loud thunder. And I heard the sound of HARPISTS playing their Harps.”
Obviously this guy never got entirely through the New Testament. Isn’t a HARP a MECHANICAL INSTRUMENT?
April 13th, 2010 at 4:21 am
The dude on the …
The dude on the phone wins, There is no logic in what this guy is saying.. This principle can be applied to any activity whatsoever. The Bible says nothing about being allowed to wear blue shirts while preaching so, why did you go beyond authority to decide to wear a blue shirt.
Stupid. This is what is destroying Christianity. The idiotic arguing over interpretations of shit. It is not your business how someone worships. If it allows them to praise God, then it is healthy and good. The End.
April 13th, 2010 at 4:21 am
Do we not know that …
Do we not know that the New Testament Church went to the Temple everyday and worshipped God. Do we also know that the Psalms teach us to play with skill before the Lord? Did Jesus come to abolish the Old Testament? Also this scripture about scripture was written before the epistles could be bundled together and called doctrine. The NT Church could not have easy acess to what we call the NT. But what you point out in the NT says ALL scripture, not half or a third or the part I wrote.
April 13th, 2010 at 4:21 am
Jesus had a …
Jesus had a different spirit than the Phasrisees. Which spirit do you have? I will let the viewers decide.
April 13th, 2010 at 4:21 am
I could not agree …
I could not agree with you more. Preachers like this actually turn people from God. Most preachers like this live in the back woods blue collar areas and dont have a clue about the real world and what happens in major metro areas and most preachers like this have some kind of issue with the constant need to feel in control of everyone. That is not of our Lord. This is why the Church of Christ population has decreased up to 13.4% in some states and its pues are graying.
April 13th, 2010 at 4:21 am
Norm are you …
Norm are you casting the first stone? Sounds like it!
April 13th, 2010 at 4:21 am
Watch this guy long …
Watch this guy long enough you will think everyone is bound. What a mean person. Trying to tell people because they listen to a trumpet they going to hell! Because if you dont do it my way youre going to hell! Hey Norm, YOURE FULL OF IT!
April 13th, 2010 at 4:21 am
omg I went to eat …
omg I went to eat at cheesecake factory on Sunday! im going to hell! omg i listened to a harp in chruch! im going to hell!
April 13th, 2010 at 4:21 am
The cults …
The cults manipulate guilt to their advantage.
April 13th, 2010 at 4:21 am
Symptom of a cult # …
Symptom of a cult # 7
Black and white, simplistic reasoning: Underneath all the complicated jargon, you’ll find a cult recruit dividing his or her world into ‘good’ and ‘bad’. The shades of grey in which we all live are usually intolerable to a cult member.
April 13th, 2010 at 4:21 am
No but I bet you do …
No but I bet you do. Oh no I drank a beer! Im going to hell! I said a cuss word! Oh No Im going to hell! I looked at that girls butt! Oh no Im going to hell. You see, many Christians claim so many things are sending us to but they really arent.
I cant think of a more uncomfortable environment than to go to a church preaching you are just one step away from all the while the Christian Mafia (Deacons) in their three piece suits are up there acting like they are perfect.
April 13th, 2010 at 4:21 am
So you don’t think …
So you don’t think it is a sin to cuss people and you don’t have anything to repent of. Let me guess, you believe in once-saved-always-saved, right? And I didn’t call you a lunatic. Your arguments may be loony, but I didn’t call you a lunatic.
April 13th, 2010 at 4:21 am
Leave it, frame it, …
Leave it, frame it, hang it on the wall! I don’t give a damn. Repent? Repent for what? Standing my ground and standing up for what I believe? Don’t think so! I guess everything is a sin to you. That’s why your a cult. You wish to manipulate and twist everything around. Calling me a lunatic? That sure is Christian of you.
April 13th, 2010 at 4:21 am
I thought about …
I thought about removing this comment because of the filthy language. I’m going to leave it so others can see the kind of attacks I get simply for telling the truth of God’s word. I pray that you will repent and realize that I’m your friend because I don’t you to be deceived by Satanic denominationalism.
April 13th, 2010 at 4:21 am
“Youre a …
“Youre a manipulative is what you are.”
Have no desire to “manipulate”…I simply pointed out your lack of Biblical integrity and your blatant hypocrisy….truth hurts I guess, huh chuck?
April 13th, 2010 at 4:21 am
I smell a cult!
I smell a cult!
April 13th, 2010 at 4:21 am
All you guys do is …
All you guys do is twist peoples comments to make it favor your belief. Youre a manipulative is what you are. As an expert in criminal behavior, I can tell you that criminals do the same thing you are doing. Only one thing! I wont give into your manipulative comments and control. Im not vulnerable and I am pretty street smart. I dont have a problem verbally expressing myself and letting you know how I feel. Get some help! Your ill.
April 13th, 2010 at 4:21 am
“Remember that even …
“Remember that even the devil knows the word of God.”
I thought “nobody this side of heaven can fully understand”? So is the “devil” in heaven? Satan knows God’s word but God’s people can’t? You, sir, are a lunatic…..hypocrisy your rage
April 13th, 2010 at 4:21 am
“….we are told in …
“….we are told in Revelation that they (insturments*) are used in heaven.”
Huh? Thought you just ridiculed this preacher for taking the Bible literally? Hypocrisy is always a sure sign of deMoNinationalism……you should be proud
April 13th, 2010 at 4:21 am
Well said!
Well said!
April 13th, 2010 at 4:21 am
Ture. This guy is …
Ture. This guy is sining because he is using a projector screen in his church. And they use sound systems and thoose were not in the New Testiment. Insturments are used to enhance worship just as projector screens and sound systems are used. I guess Chruch of Chirst is going to be shocked when gabriel blows the trumpet.
April 13th, 2010 at 4:21 am
Why do Church of …
Why do Church of Christ preachers take the word of God so literally. Im waiting for this guy to start telling people to pluck their eyes out if it leads them to sin. This is dogmatisim. This man is trying to act like he is God . Be very careful of any chruch that says they are the only ones who have it right. Nobody on this side of heaven can fully understand and comprehend the fullness of every scripture in the Word. Remember that even the devil knows the word of God.
April 13th, 2010 at 4:21 am
Insturments were …
Insturments were used in the old testiment and we are told in Revelation that they are used in heaven. How do we get off telling people that they are going to if they use an insturment. If they were so evil then we would have been insturcted not to use them. I dont know what this guy is going to do when Gabriel blows the trumpet. This chruch sounds like a cult.
April 13th, 2010 at 4:21 am
Pastor Norm-Show me …
Pastor Norm-Show me where the NT church is furnished to use computers, the internet, camcorders, and you tube by scripture? Or are those exempt from what you’re talking about here?