I was exiled from my bible study fellowship of 2 years for owning porn using 1 Cor 5 – Christian cult tactics?

March 82010

Christians only, please: So, here’s the deal, been born again for three decades and ministered for many years in my early walk. I’ve been part of this small group who are like family (If not closer) to me. They were my sole support outside of worship at my old church. I openly, honestly admitted I own porn and others in our group struggle with viewing it online.

One leader-type member is a bonafide sex addict times ten who lives God and hates sin, making a huge production of his struggles and victories. He sanctimoniously diagnosed ME as an addict for not destroying my porn. I was put through over two intense hours of intervention because I casually view porn as a divorced man – at one point, I believe it did control me, however never to the point of this self-righteous man. He went to Meadows and was treated at highest level for sex addiction a few years back following his divorce due to his behemoth lust/addiction behavior. He sees me as being admittedly bisexual and born again (yes, several of us do exist) as a wicked, evil sinner for owning porn and not repenting from it.

I was sorry that my porn was shared without my permission from two guest female members/friends who unlocked my closet and viewed it. Our group leader, a married man confronted me alongside this hypocritical sanctimonious man whobgave me an ultimatum to leave or destroy my porn and seek fairly expensive treatment in a six month course that he attends or be exiled – I chose the course even though I explained I’m not an addict. Then I said I’d destroy the porn, but could not guarantee I may not view some elsewhere or simply rent down the street. I’m honest, sorry. They wanted me to show contrition and say porn is evil – and well, I simply do not believe that – for some people, yes – just like alcohol, but I casually view it, around 90 minutes in past 4 months. So, he says I’m a "casual addict" – lol – oxymoron. I was banished and told to have no contact with anyone in the group, including my two best friends, one who is ex-GF and my BFF possible future wife. Several members hide secret sins (people talk) and I was open and honest about all mine, yet because I physically OWN factory porn I am now personna non gratta.

Is this right?? I’ve been told bi all my Christian friends outside fellowship they overstepped their bounds. So, last night, they had an enormously long intense session on sin leading up to validating my expulsion. However, 1 Cor 5 is referring to a specific sexually immoral PUBLIC sin that hurt the early church. Mine was never public, just pubic – bad joke – need a little levity, sorry. This addict/co-leader told us he’s never felt the Holy Spirit and my gift of discerment confirms that, but judging those inside the faith should require and come purely via the Holy Spirit, I thought, otherwise it is judgment through the flesh – and we all know who is in charge there.

So, am I truly the evil, wicked, unrepentant brother Paul speaks of? Was I in a cult? It sure feels that way. This UN-spirit-filled man even declared me to have a false salvation and that I am living in hell as I speak. I believe he perceived me as a threat to discovering his hypocrisy and duality, thus his successful attempt to convince the leader/host of our group to have me removed. I’ve since removed my false ’shame’ and been cleansed, filled with joy in the Holy Spirit (Jn 7:38) at seeing truth. Am I wrong? Opinions? Thanks and blessings :)

Ted, what we run into today, is most all "Christians" look at Jesus thru our cultural lens, and the perspective that’s been given to us from centuries of church organizations. I don’t see that Jesus was ever into protecting the organization and he even invited, accepted and embraced those who were different, messy, f’d up people (tax collectors, prostitutes, zealots, even the one who would betray him). Rather than forcing people away, Jesus drew them close and shined light into areas of their life where it was needed.
Sin is falling short of being who God wants you to be, not someone else’s falling short. The lens of judgement should look inward, not at the rest of the world. It’s amazing how once we’ve "mastered" something in our lives that we felt was "sin", we feel the need to nail others on that same thing and show them the way. Also amazing how God will often use those same things as "Spiritual Sh!t Sandwiches".

Merlon Devine plays Change at Fellowship Bible Church

March 82010

Saxophonist Merlon Devine plays at Fellowship Bible Church in Little Rock, Arkansas. The song selection is entitled Change from his CD Breate, available on iTunes and at www.merlondevine.com.

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How does sin change things?

March 52010

How does sin change things?

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Just A Question? What about Sunday Fellowship BUT No Relgion, God or Bible Allowed? Any Thoughts?

March 42010

From the first glance on the outside it would be just like church (people gathering), however, there would be distinct differences such as; No infused religion, hoops, policies and proceedures to follow, no pressure of giving 10% of money becuase you may already behind on bills and necessities and so forth. No one telling you suck and that you are a SINNER and unless you follow the prescribed and predetermined route of B-L-A-N-K denomination you will end up if hell.

Just a sincere "Come as you are How you are"! Would anyone else besides me considering doing this?

See, while I do not attend church (Of Any Kind) for reasons not important to this question; As a human being, I do miss the fellowship, gathering and meeting of people on a level that has no agenda. Just hanging out, perhaps drinking a cup of coffee, letting family and kids mix with one another and building a support system all the while having fun.

Bottom Line – It is church with religion; Would You Go?

OK, so why does it have to be on Sunday? Why call it "fellowship"? Why not just have it any day of the week and call it what it really is–a party? You see, you are still binding yourself to the premise of it being a bit like "church" even though you’re trying so hard not to. Disclaimer: I am a Christian. Many of the things that you say characterize Christians are very stereotypical and untrue. I’ve never in my life told someone they "suck" or that they "have to give money." You know why? I’m not the "assistant" Holy Spirit. That’s not my job. My job is to live my life according to what I believe and let that be my testimony. All Christians are not hypocritical legalists, even though there are many out there.
And you can have a fellowship that’s Christ-centered without it being legalist or fundamentalist. It all depends on how YOU lead it. I’m not trying to offend you; I’m just saying, your idea is so thoroughly rooted in Christianity, that it’s tough to totally separate it. And I’m also saying that it doesn’t have to be like the not-so-good experiences that it seems like you may have had in the past. God bless.

I am deployed and not able to go to Church, where can I find fellowship?

March 22010

After two and a half years of bible college I joined the Army to get more money for my college. I am now deployed and not able to go to Church. I do not know any Christians and am struggling to stay pure when every one around me is involved in immorality and lewd behavior… Help!

Hello Caleb. :)

I found this website that may be helpful to you.
http://www.christianviewpoints.com/
It has a quite a few articles.
There are also a few ‘cyber-churches’ too.

http://cyber-church.com/
http://online-churches.net/

I will be praying for you,

Serena

Sierra Grace Fellowship – Vacation Bible School 2009

February 272010

Vacation Bible School at Sierra Grace Fellowship in Auburn, CA. The theme was “Operation Space”. BLAST OFF!!

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What are good ideas for a church youth group?

February 262010

our advisors are asking like what we can do to enhance our church youth group and make it better and more fun for everyone. This is basically what we do now: sing, praise dance, we have a youth sunday, read the bible and talk about our weeks (because we meet on Fridays) so what do you think are more things we can do. Once we did a fundraiser and it was like we made a restaurant in the fellowship hall and served people meals we cooked, but then we basically had money for no reason, so we need ideas on what to do. thanks

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Invite "Paul Washer" or "Mark Cahill" to go to speak to the kids at your church. : )

or

You can gather up a bunch of them to attend the "CREATION MUSEUM" and have like a huge camp type TRIP. It’s supposed to be better then the whole Universal Studios ordeal! Mainly, cause you learn while your on the rides AND it’s all biblically sound!!!! (Great for all Ages!)

P.S. I think they give out discounts for church groups.

Why is obama an anti-Christian killer of his own race?

February 242010

CBN News.com — WASHINGTON — Two pastors spent the day in jail after kneeling and praying outside the White House.

The Pastors said since President obama didn’t attend any of the National Day of Prayer events Thursday, they brought the prayer to him. Before they were handcuffed and taken away, the two African-American pastors said they’re particularly upset with the president for not taking a stand against abortion, especially in the black community.

"Over 1,400 black babies a day are dying," said Reverend Stephen Broden of the Dallas, Texas Fair Park Bible Fellowship Church. "Everyday at the end of the day when the sun goes down, they are lynched out of their mother’s womb, which should be the safest place on earth for a baby."

"For the president to say that he simply wants to reduce the number of abortions is an insult," said Broden’s fellow protestor, Reverend Johnny Hunter, the founder of Life Education & Resource Network. "I’m so glad this fellow wasn’t around during the times of slavery. He would have been saying ‘we want to reduce the number of slaves.’"

The pastors were given three warnings before they were arrested and charged with failure to obey a lawful order.

I agree 100% with those pastors. I am sure a couple pastors praying was hardly offensive or a disturbance of the peace, why did they need warnings?

Men’s Fraternity – The Quest – Tim Lundy, Quest Leader

February 242010

Tim Lundy, Directional Leader of Fellowship Bible Church in Little Rock, Arkansas, talks about the incredible impact and benefit men will experience when attending Men’s Fraternity.

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Did anybody go to church today???

February 222010

I did. I go to Valley Bible Fellowship. Whats the name of your church?
WOW!! Alot of quick responses. Keep them coming. I love it.
I guess now the question would be: Did anybody go to church on Sunday??

I went to church today… Church makes my whole day feel better. I am a saved Christian and believe in God without a shadow of a doubt… I know where I am going when I die- I hope you do to.

" I can’t see the air, but I know it’s there- I can’t see my Lord, but I KNOW he’s there."

-WORDS TO LIVE BY